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Hi!
I feel like everyone is talking about how instant and fast their NAS systems are, while I feel like my speeds should be way faster considering my setup.
I am trying to transfer 75GB of files over a local 5Ghz wifi network.
  • Speedtest.net gives me +-250-300Mbps but I'm not sure that's relevant as it's over local wifi
  • I'm using a DS720+ with 1TB SSD NVME & a toshiba MG08 16TB with a fritz!box 7530 which should give 866 Mbps speeds over wifi 5 GHz
  • I'm connected using Finder, so "network - drive".
Any idea why it's so slow?

EDIT:
I'm starting to think it's due to the limitations of my wifi and the Synology. From what I gather, the max speed I would be getting is 108MB/s due to the fact that my 5Ghz is only gonna go 866 Mbps as I mentioned earlier.

Is there also a limitation in my Synology? Because now I'm not entirely sure what max speed I can expect from my Synology. Is it the speed of the HDD, which equals 264MiB/s -> Which I assume is about 260MB/s?

So if I would upgrade my wifi network to something that can transfer 300MB/s over 5Ghz I would be seeing faster transfer speeds? Or is the max speed equal to the 2x 1Gbps connections = so basically 250MB/s ? And would I need to have 2 HDD's in the Synology to make this work?

If I would buy the AVM FRITZ!Box WLAN 4060 would it increase my transfer speeds? It has WiFi 6.
 
It does sound like a connectivity problem. BTW, you are right: Speedtest is irrelevant as that is testing out onto the Internet. You can run some rudimentary tests on the NAS itself in File Station: copy a large file between two shared folders will probably do it. Or there are commands to create new files with a set amount of random data (I forget the commands right now).

At the moment you will be limited to around 1Mbps for wired connectivity. For wireless the maximum speeds will vary based on client's hardware, access point's hardware, distances between devices, physical environment/obstructions, other devices connecting, other nearby wireless networks. It's not simple to say get X and Y and you'll be super-duper to go.

To test the wireless network from your Mac you can use a scanner application such as WFi Explorer (£18 on MAS) or the lite version (<£2). I bought the £18 version (direct from their website some years ago, I see it has a 3 day free trial) and it's been really useful to see what networks are about and the signal strengths. There are other applications that do this so you should have a look for what seems best for you. But doing an audit of your current WiFi setup may save you cash.

Here are a few things you could do to check the Mac to NAS connectivity and file transfer speeds (Mac specific). Note: examples are between my Mac and NAS which are both wired to the same LAN switch using 1GbE ports.

Use ping on the Mac to check time to reach the NAS

Using Mac's Terminal run this command (-c 10 limits to 10 pings, so you don't have to stop it running using ctrl C).

ping -c 10 NAS_IP_ADDRESS

You will get an output like this.

Bash:
$ ping -c 10 NAS_IP_ADDRESS
PING networkdrive.nesfield.me.uk (NAS_IP_ADDRESS): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.618 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.451 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.565 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.386 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.279 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.624 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.843 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.619 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.333 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.631 ms

--- networkdrive.nesfield.me.uk ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.279/0.535/0.843/0.162 ms

Use iperf3 on both Mac and NAS to test the data transfer speeds (not to NAS disks)

iperf3 sends data between the client and server but doesn't write to disk, so this is purely a network test.

Unfortunately, neither Mac nor NAS comes with iperf3 installed as a command line utility, so you will have to do this first. There used to be a few free apps in Mac App Store but they look to have disappeared.

On Mac you the options are to install the command utility binaries from iPerf - The TCP, UDP and SCTP network bandwidth measurement tool or to use Homebrew / Mac Ports (the latter two are easier/useful if you have other things you want to install but take some disk space just for themselves). There used to be WiFiPerf on MAS and I think it may now be available only via their own website.​
On your NAS (DS720+) you can use Docker to install the iperf3 container. I use this one networkstatic/iperf3.​

Once installed the NAS will run as an iperf3 server (iperf3 -s). In Mac's Terminal run iperf3 in client mode both sending to NAS and NAS sending to Mac. You should get something like this, note the two commands to run 'forward' and 'reverse' tests.

Bash:
$ iperf3 --client NAS_IP_ADDRESS; iperf3 --client --reverse NAS_IP_ADDRESS
Connecting to host NAS_IP_ADDRESS, port 5201
[  7] local MAC_IP_ADDRESS port 61472 connected to NAS_IP_ADDRESS port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  7]   0.00-1.00   sec   114 MBytes   955 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   1.00-2.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   3.00-4.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   4.00-5.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   5.00-6.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   6.00-7.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   7.00-8.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   9.00-10.00  sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  7]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   942 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  7]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.10 GBytes   940 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.
Connecting to host --reverse, port 5201
[  7] local MAC_IP_ADDRESS port 61499 connected to NAS_IP_ADDRESS port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  7]   0.00-1.00   sec   114 MBytes   955 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   1.00-2.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   3.00-4.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   4.00-5.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   5.00-6.00   sec   112 MBytes   936 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   6.00-7.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   7.00-8.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
[  7]   9.00-10.00  sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec              
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  7]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   941 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  7]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.09 GBytes   940 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

Install Blackmagic Disk Speed Test on the Mac and test the data transfer speeds (to the NAS disks)

If you don't have this already then you can get it from the Mac App Store. UK link...

You mount a location in Finder. In Disk Speed Test select the mounted volume as the Target Drive (via the 'cog' settings button). Run the test. It should look something like this (the results will var, I was getting 105MB/s write in one test).

1655451814981.png
 
I'm starting to think it's due to the limitations of my wifi and the Synology. From what I gather, the max speed I would be getting is 108MB/s due to the fact that my 5Ghz is only gonna go 866 Mbps as I mentioned earlier.
It does sound like a connectivity problem. BTW, you are right: Speedtest is irrelevant as that is testing out onto the Internet. You can run some rudimentary tests on the NAS itself in File Station: copy a large file between two shared folders will probably do it. Or there are commands to create new files with a set amount of random data (I forget the commands right now).

At the moment you will be limited to around 1Mbps for wired connectivity. For wireless the maximum speeds will vary based on client's hardware, access point's hardware, distances between devices, physical environment/obstructions, other devices connecting, other nearby wireless networks. It's not simple to say get X and Y and you'll be super-duper to go.

To test the wireless network from your Mac you can use a scanner application such as WFi Explorer (£18 on MAS) or the lite version (<£2). I bought the £18 version (direct from their website some years ago, I see it has a 3 day free trial) and it's been really useful to see what networks are about and the signal strengths. There are other applications that do this so you should have a look for what seems best for you. But doing an audit of your current WiFi setup may save you cash.

Here are a few things you could do to check the Mac to NAS connectivity and file transfer speeds (Mac specific). Note: examples are between my Mac and NAS which are both wired to the same LAN switch using 1GbE ports.

Use ping on the Mac to check time to reach the NAS

Using Mac's Terminal run this command (-c 10 limits to 10 pings, so you don't have to stop it running using ctrl C).

ping -c 10 NAS_IP_ADDRESS

You will get an output like this.

Bash:
$ ping -c 10 NAS_IP_ADDRESS
PING networkdrive.nesfield.me.uk (NAS_IP_ADDRESS): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.618 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.451 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.565 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.386 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.279 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.624 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.843 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.619 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.333 ms
64 bytes from NAS_IP_ADDRESS: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.631 ms

--- networkdrive.nesfield.me.uk ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.279/0.535/0.843/0.162 ms

Use iperf3 on both Mac and NAS to test the data transfer speeds (not to NAS disks)

iperf3 sends data between the client and server but doesn't write to disk, so this is purely a network test.

Unfortunately, neither Mac nor NAS comes with iperf3 installed as a command line utility, so you will have to do this first. There used to be a few free apps in Mac App Store but they look to have disappeared.

On Mac you the options are to install the command utility binaries from iPerf - The TCP, UDP and SCTP network bandwidth measurement tool or to use Homebrew / Mac Ports (the latter two are easier/useful if you have other things you want to install but take some disk space just for themselves). There used to be WiFiPerf on MAS and I think it may now be available only via their own website.​
On your NAS (DS720+) you can use Docker to install the iperf3 container. I use this one networkstatic/iperf3.​

Once installed the NAS will run as an iperf3 server (iperf3 -s). In Mac's Terminal run iperf3 in client mode both sending to NAS and NAS sending to Mac. You should get something like this, note the two commands to run 'forward' and 'reverse' tests.

Bash:
$ iperf3 --client NAS_IP_ADDRESS; iperf3 --client --reverse NAS_IP_ADDRESS
Connecting to host NAS_IP_ADDRESS, port 5201
[  7] local MAC_IP_ADDRESS port 61472 connected to NAS_IP_ADDRESS port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  7]   0.00-1.00   sec   114 MBytes   955 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   1.00-2.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   3.00-4.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   4.00-5.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   5.00-6.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   6.00-7.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   7.00-8.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   9.00-10.00  sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  7]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   942 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  7]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.10 GBytes   940 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.
Connecting to host --reverse, port 5201
[  7] local MAC_IP_ADDRESS port 61499 connected to NAS_IP_ADDRESS port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  7]   0.00-1.00   sec   114 MBytes   955 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   1.00-2.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   3.00-4.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   4.00-5.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   5.00-6.00   sec   112 MBytes   936 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   6.00-7.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   7.00-8.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
[  7]   9.00-10.00  sec   112 MBytes   940 Mbits/sec             
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  7]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   941 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  7]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.09 GBytes   940 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

Install Blackmagic Disk Speed Test on the Mac and test the data transfer speeds (to the NAS disks)

If you don't have this already then you can get it from the Mac App Store. UK link...

You mount a location in Finder. In Disk Speed Test select the mounted volume as the Target Drive (via the 'cog' settings button). Run the test. It should look something like this (the results will var, I was getting 105MB/s write in one test).

View attachment 10031
Ok, so I've tried the ping and blackmagic test.
I'm not able to do the other one because I'm really not familiar with Docker and I think there's quite a learning curve to get this test done so it will not be for now.
The results from the ping test:
Code:
PING 192.168.178.140 (192.168.178.140): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=4.326 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.457 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=5.033 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=3.785 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=2.396 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=8.585 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=2.810 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=6.826 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=4.782 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.178.140: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=4.465 ms

--- 192.168.178.140 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 2.396/4.546/8.585/1.856 ms

The results from the black magic
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I'm thinking about getting a new router that has 5400Mbps wifi speed on 5Ghz and has LACP to make use of the 2x 1Gbps lan ports on my synology with link aggregation.

I see you're getting much faster results, what is your setup like then?
 
I am trying to transfer 75GB of files over a local 5Ghz wifi network.

try to transfer the exact same bunch of data over Ethernet:
- from the exact same source
- to the exact same destination (NAS)
and forget the speed test results - it will show you the naked reality. The problem is if you have a computer that does not have Ethernet.

You have no chance of simulating reality with these tests - especially with the iperf unless you are a skilled user and you do not know what the individual outputs and settings mean, e.g. <F> option:
client-side: read from the file and write to the network, instead of using random data;
server-side: read from the network and write to the file, instead of throwing the data away.
Just assumptions or false interpretations of what you will get.

If you have an average size of one 2MB file (in the 75GB bunch), then there is another bottleneck.

And there can be many more bottlenecks. Without exact testing, you will only compare apples to pears.
And you will spend a lot of money on nonsensical gadgets that may not increase the speed of your environment at all. Just because it has a WiFi6 sticker, it doesn't have to bring anything revolutionary. Just so good feeling or nervous that it didn't help.
Every house is built from the ground up. WiFi6 is the roof.
 
try to transfer the exact same bunch of data over Ethernet:
- from the exact same source
- to the exact same destination (NAS)
and forget the speed test results - it will show you the naked reality. The problem is if you have a computer that does not have Ethernet.

You have no chance of simulating reality with these tests - especially with the iperf unless you are a skilled user and you do not know what the individual outputs and settings mean, e.g. <F> option:
client-side: read from the file and write to the network, instead of using random data;
server-side: read from the network and write to the file, instead of throwing the data away.
Just assumptions or false interpretations of what you will get.

If you have an average size of one 2MB file (in the 75GB bunch), then there is another bottleneck.

And there can be many more bottlenecks. Without exact testing, you will only compare apples to pears.
And you will spend a lot of money on nonsensical gadgets that may not increase the speed of your environment at all. Just because it has a WiFi6 sticker, it doesn't have to bring anything revolutionary. Just so good feeling or nervous that it didn't help.
Every house is built from the ground up. WiFi6 is the roof.
I will try via Ethernet, when I can get the Mac Mini connected to the modem.
These are many 10-100MB files as it are 3D prints (.stl) files.

I'll report back when I get the chance to connect via Ethernet! Thank you for your help so far and TTL!
 
I retested from my MacBook Air 2014 and placed myself optimally to get the highest connection speed (TX Rate of 867 Mbps) on my main router (minimising hops and latency.

Here's the disk speed test over wireless.
1655457690090.png


And again from the same MacBook Air but using the Thunderbolt 1 to 1GbE Ethernet dongle.
1655457861380.png


I have:
  • RT2600ac as main router to the Internet (using Virgin Media Hub 5 in bridge mode).
  • MR2200ac router in wired mesh with RT2600ac.
  • Managed 1GbE switch connecting all wired LAN devices.
    • SRM guest VLAN 1733 is mapped across the switch ports of the two routers
  • Wireless channels:
    • 2.4 GHz using widths 20 and 40 MHz.
    • 5 G GHz using widths 20, 40, and 80 MHz.
  • RT2600ac has up to 1733 Mbps on 5 GHz and 800 Mbps on 2.4 GHz. But clients connect and a max of half these. In wireless mesh the 5 GHz will be used as uplink with 5 GHz #1 of the MR2200ac.
  • MR2200ac has up to 867 Mbps on 2x 5 GHz and 400 Mbps on 2.4 GHz.
You can get quite a lot of info from your Mac's Wi-Fi menubar item (alt-click it to reveal a bigger info panel). Look at the TX Rate for the maximum speed you are currently getting from your position relative to the wireless router.


And @jeyare has a good point about the composition of the 75 GB of data that you are trying to transfer. Lots of little files will bog down the speeds significantly. I forgot about that aspect and assumed you had a fairly monolithic 75 GB.
 
I will try via Ethernet, when I can get the Mac Mini connected to the modem.
These are many 10-100MB files as it are 3D prints (.stl) files.

I'll report back when I get the chance to connect via Ethernet! Thank you for your help so far and TTL!
Buying a very long ethernet cable may will be cheaper than replacing all your wireless kit. Cat 5e will do, or Cat 6 or Cat 7 cabling with RJ45 connectors. When you don't need it you can roll it away.

Before you mount the NAS volume in Finder you should check Mac's Network settings. Either have Ethernet connection above Wi-Fi in the list (when both are active) or disable Wi-Fi. This will ensure you are using the Ethernet and getting the better speeds.
 
I retested from my MacBook Air 2014 and placed myself optimally to get the highest connection speed (TX Rate of 867 Mbps) on my main router (minimising hops and latency.

Here's the disk speed test over wireless.
View attachment 10035

And again from the same MacBook Air but using the Thunderbolt 1 to 1GbE Ethernet dongle.
View attachment 10036

I have:
  • RT2600ac as main router to the Internet (using Virgin Media Hub 5 in bridge mode).
  • MR2200ac router in wired mesh with RT2600ac.
  • Managed 1GbE switch connecting all wired LAN devices.
    • SRM guest VLAN 1733 is mapped across the switch ports of the two routers
  • Wireless channels:
    • 2.4 GHz using widths 20 and 40 MHz.
    • 5 G GHz using widths 20, 40, and 80 MHz.
  • RT2600ac has up to 1733 Mbps on 5 GHz and 800 Mbps on 2.4 GHz. But clients connect and a max of half these. In wireless mesh the 5 GHz will be used as uplink with 5 GHz #1 of the MR2200ac.
  • MR2200ac has up to 867 Mbps on 2x 5 GHz and 400 Mbps on 2.4 GHz.
You can get quite a lot of info from your Mac's Wi-Fi menubar item (alt-click it to reveal a bigger info panel). Look at the TX Rate for the maximum speed you are currently getting from your position relative to the wireless router.


And @jeyare has a good point about the composition of the 75 GB of data that you are trying to transfer. Lots of little files will bog down the speeds significantly. I forgot about that aspect and assumed you had a fairly monolithic 75 GB.
That's not too far off from what I am getting over wifi.
My Tx Rate is 526 Mbps. What can I gather from that information? That I should be able to transfer at about 65MB/s?
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Buying a very long ethernet cable may will be cheaper than replacing all your wireless kit. Cat 5e will do, or Cat 6 or Cat 7 cabling with RJ45 connectors. When you don't need it you can roll it away.

Before you mount the NAS volume in Finder you should check Mac's Network settings. Either have Ethernet connection above Wi-Fi in the list (when both are active) or disable Wi-Fi. This will ensure you are using the Ethernet and getting the better speeds.
I woud do that, but then my GH would go up (Girlfriend hostility) due to cables running through the house. She is a wireless only model so cables that go through the house would create a hostile home environment. Perhaps I should look into GF2.0 and ditch GF1.0 altogether for higher NAS speeds. I'll think about it but for now I'm still quite happy with GF1.0
 
That's not too far off from what I am getting over wifi.
My Tx Rate is 526 Mbps. What can I gather from that information? That I should be able to transfer at about 65MB/s?
That is at absolute best. I saw the initial read/write speed at around 60 MB/s but they quickly dropped to 40-46 MB/s. Until there's a lot more WiFi 6 (802.11ax) around you will be pretty limited on wireless.

BTW using any variant of LAG on the NAS won't improve the maximum transfer speeds as each client will be limited to one wire's speed. LAG helps for serving to multiple clients. I'm aware that is some feature somewhere in Windows enables clients with multiple connections to utilise them, but I've never really investigate PC stuff.
 
That is at absolute best. I saw the initial read/write speed at around 60 MB/s but they quickly dropped to 40-46 MB/s. Until there's a lot more WiFi 6 (802.11ax) around you will be pretty limited on wireless.

BTW using any variant of LAG on the NAS won't improve the maximum transfer speeds as each client will be limited to one wire's speed. LAG helps for serving to multiple clients. I'm aware that is some feature somewhere in Windows enables clients with multiple connections to utilise them, but I've never really investigate PC stuff.
What is LAG?
I'm currently connected to 1 router, which does not support LACP so my 2 LAN ports that are connected to my router are just working as fail safe. So I'm limited by cable to 1x 1Gbps LAN or 125Mbps
From Wifi standpoint I have a 866Mbps limit from my Router over 5Ghz wifi so that limits it to about 100 Mbps
No Wifi 6

I'm gonna try out a new router that has LACP support so cabled should then bump up to 250Mbps or 2Gbps due to the 2 LAN connections coming from my NAS
And then I'll also have a max wifi connection of 5400Mbps over 5 Ghz with Wifi 6.

I think that should give me the best results I could hope, so I hope to try that once it arrives today or tomorrow.

Any thoughts on that?
 
BTW using any variant of LAG on the NAS won't improve the maximum transfer speeds as each client will be limited to one wire's speed. LAG helps for serving to multiple clients. I'm aware that is some feature somewhere in Windows enables clients with multiple connections to utilise them, but I've never really investigate PC stuff.
Was about to comment on the intial mention of this by @nathanhorn but seen a s you already answered I will just that DSM will get SMB multi-channel support now in DSM 7.1.x at one point that will allow LAG setups to double the throughput if the destination side supports the same. But as mentioned, atm this will not be beneficial from a single client speed standpoint.
 
Was about to comment on the intial mention of this by @nathanhorn but seen a s you already answered I will just that DSM will get SMB multi-channel support now in DSM 7.1.x at one point that will allow LAG setups to double the throughput if the destination side supports the same. But as mentioned, atm this will not be beneficial from a single client speed standpoint.
Hi Rusty! I'm not familiar with lots of the terms thrown around here, unfortunately. Learning as I go, but what does SMB multi-channel mean? Is that regarding what I mentioned about the 2x 1Gbps LAN ports that I wish to connect to a LACP compatible router?
 
as said, LAG will not help you in 1:1 communication atm. You will still only get 1G from your NAS side.
So the 2x 1G from my NAS side is only relevant to wired connections? Not to Wireless? Cause the NAS is wired to the Router, the router allows for 5400 Mbps wifi speeds, so I'd assume the 250MB/s the NAS would put through through the 2x 1Gbps LACP connection would be applicable to wifi speeds as well then? Since the router can handle it?

EDIT: And what I gather here, is that in a future update of DSM 7 they will provide that speed increase through wifi for multichannel?
 
EDIT: And what I gather here, is that in a future update of DSM 7 they will provide that speed increase through wifi for multichannel?
SMB multi-channel as everything else on the NAS is only relevant to its primary interfaces, and that's ethernet communication only. router and its wifi is the second stage and a second choke-point after the NAS, so that's a whole different discussion altogether.
 
SMB multi-channel as everything else on the NAS is only relevant to its primary interfaces, and that's ethernet communication only. router and its wifi is the second stage and a second choke-point after the NAS, so that's a whole different discussion altogether.
So Wifi will not benefit from 2 LAN connections any time soon?
 
the router allows for 5400 Mbps wifi speeds

While it may be up to 5400 Mbps (didn't look myself) the website says up to 866 Mbps.

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Also check this comparison table.

That's fairly conclusive that your router is topping out at 866 Mbps. The faster 7590 router has a maximum of 1733 Mbps, like my RT2600ac, but you have to check the max speed per client. Also check the Mac's hardware to see what it supports.
 
@jeyare let me try to explain the reasons for suggesting network tests...

You have no chance of simulating reality with these tests
The intention was to get some idea of the network speeds in, I assume, a home environment and using tools that are easily available. Simulating reality (if that's the 75 GB of data) wasn't the goal, it was to see how the A-to-B connectivity is generally performing.

That's why I specifically wrote 'could' and not must and are only suggestions. Because I didn't assume there was any capability to use Ethernet, which might but not definitely solve the issue.
Here are a few things you could do to check the Mac to NAS connectivity

The point was to ask questions like "what's the network behaving like" so if that's indicating a faster capability then the issue would be further up the stack and then gets to interaction of file services, and then the storage. Then you can ask "what's different between these seemingly better results to what I get when using in day-to-day reality mode?". Which can be file sizes, but also could be data processing by an application service. It may also be that Traffic Control has been enabled for the affected traffic but not others. It could be something entirely.
 

While it may be up to 5400 Mbps (didn't look myself) the website says up to 866 Mbps.

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Also check this comparison table.

That's fairly conclusive that your router is topping out at 866 Mbps. The faster 7590 router has a maximum of 1733 Mbps, like my RT2600ac, but you have to check the max speed per client. Also check the Mac's hardware to see what it supports.
I've checked the specs of the AMV routers but they don't have LACP. I was referring to a new router I've ordered which has LACP and fast wifi speeds. -> ASUS RT-AX86U
I always have 30 days to return it if the difference is nearly insignificant.
 

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