RS2423+ (or any 8bay or greater 2023 plus model) and 3rd party drives?

[zombiephysicist]

I finally got mine, and will use nothing but off brand drives. Will report.

So just plugged in my cheap 20TB Toshiba MG10ACA20TE drives. It gave the usual 'not verified compatibility' warning that I dismissed. Seems to be working fine.

 

[zombiephysicist]

So just plugged in my cheap 20TB Toshiba MG10ACA20TE drives. It gave the usual 'not verified compatibility' warning that I dismissed. Seems to be working fine.

Just to follow up, it seems to be doing all the SMART and temperature reporting that normal supported drives do. Of course it cannot do firmware downloads, but otherwise, seems to be working just like it does on my 1821+ (and all previous 8bay units).

I only have 4 20TB drives in there for right now in 2 SHR pools. And the drives have completed the quick SMART tests but still doing the long verifications.

I also put in 2 16GB sticks of ECC memory (non Synology) and they seem to be working fine. No warning was reported for them.

Synology does 2 things weird with the ram. First they zip tie the 8GB of ram in there so you have to cut it and they know you used 3rd party memory. Second, the instructions do not note you must take off the fan collector to get access to the other tab to unhook the memory sticks. Not a big deal, but lame the documentation doesnt show it and youre on your own to figure it out. Keep your original 8GB stick because you need to put it back in if you have any warranty work!

Reads on the individual drives seem to peak at around 266MB/s so not bad.

Seems like the drive restrictions for SATA drives (at least) are a big nothingburger. It's just a warning and nothing more.

 

[adjusto]

Just to follow up, it seems to be doing all the SMART and temperature reporting that normal supported drives do. Of course it cannot do firmware downloads, but otherwise, seems to be working just like it does on my 1821+ (and all previous 8bay units).

I only have 4 20TB drives in there for right now in 2 SHR pools. And the drives have completed the quick SMART tests but still doing the long verifications.

I also put in 2 16GB sticks of ECC memory (non Synology) and they seem to be working fine. No warning was reported for them.

Synology does 2 things weird with the ram. First they zip tie the 8GB of ram in there so you have to cut it and they know you used 3rd party memory. Second, the instructions do not note you must take off the fan collector to get access to the other tab to unhook the memory sticks. Not a big deal, but lame the documentation doesnt show it and youre on your own to figure it out. Keep your original 8GB stick because you need to put it back in if you have any warranty work!

Reads on the individual drives seem to peak at around 266MB/s so not bad.

Seems like the drive restrictions for SATA drives (at least) are a big nothingburger. It's just a warning and nothing more.

Thanks for the tests! That sounds very promising and hopeful!

 

[zombiephysicist]

Hopefully I’ll finish setting it up in a day or 2 and can report if it shows any other messages or status.

 

[zombiephysicist]

So after using non-Synology drives and doing the initial verification scan, this is what you will see:

So Synology are run by idiots best I can tell. It's one thing to give a warning in 'do you want to use this non-Synology drive' and another to show it as an actual risk warning. The irony is the Toshiba drives I'm using are the very same ones they use and slap their labels on. All this does is make me now not pay attention to their warnings and likely ignore things that truly put your system at risk just because they really felt a need to basically misrepresent this BS risk to sell their crap labeled drives.

Shame they chose to just be scummy like this. It makes me very much dislike the brand. And EVERY SINGLE TIME I see this bs warning, it will re-affirm my hatred and dislike for the brand and how much they will misrepresent reality for $1 more.

That said, it does not impact the actual functioning, so I will just ignore all the system warning health monitor indicators moving forward and continue not to use their drives.

Really very user hostile and spiteful IMO. I assume others will feel otherwise, and more power to those folks.

That seems to be the sum total effect to not using Synology's relabeled Toshiba drives, ie, annoying warning message, and then, forever misrepresentative "at risk/warning/unverified" status in some health status windows/boxes. Annoying, but not a deal breaker for me as it doesn't affect function in any meaningful way. As always, YMMV.

 

[southerndoc]

DoJ has been investigating companies for antitrust issues. If Syno was a bigger company, they would probably investigate them.

 

[adjusto]

So after using non-Synology drives and doing the initial verification scan, this is what you will see:

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So Synology are run by idiots best I can tell. It's one thing to give a warning in 'do you want to use this non-Synology drive' and another to show it as an actual risk warning. The irony is the Toshiba drives I'm using are the very same ones they use and slap their labels on. All this does is make me now not pay attention to their warnings and likely ignore things that truly put your system at risk just because they really felt a need to basically misrepresent this BS risk to sell their crap labeled drives.

Shame they chose to just be scummy like this. It makes me very much dislike the brand. And EVERY SINGLE TIME I see this bs warning, it will re-affirm my hatred and dislike for the brand and how much they will misrepresent reality for $1 more.

That said, it does not impact the actual functioning, so I will just ignore all the system warning health monitor indicators moving forward and continue not to use their drives.

Really very user hostile and spiteful IMO. I assume others will feel otherwise, and more power to those folks.

That seems to be the sum total effect to not using Synology's relabeled Toshiba drives, ie, annoying warning message, and then, forever misrepresentative "at risk/warning/unverified" status in some health status windows/boxes. Annoying, but not a deal breaker for me as it doesn't affect function in any meaningful way. As always, YMMV.

Thanks for your testing, really appreciate it!
Have you tried the tricks with the script to get rid of the warnings?
(GitHub - 007revad/Synology_HDD_db: Add your HDD, SSD and NVMe drives to your Synology's compatible drive database)

Does it show all the smart-data etc. as usual?

 

[zombiephysicist]

Thanks for your testing, really appreciate it!
Have you tried the tricks with the script to get rid of the warnings?
(GitHub - 007revad/Synology_HDD_db: Add your HDD, SSD and NVMe drives to your Synology's compatible drive database)

Does it show all the smart-data etc. as usual?

I haven’t tried the script. Yes, it seems to show all the smart data like hours used, temperatures. Let me know if there is a particular stat you’re interested in. I can’t report on bad blocks since the drives are new, but I think it will generate reports when that occurs.

 

[Coop777]

If you do decide to run the script - keep in mind that future DSM updates may overwrite the changes, meaning that you would need to run it again.