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DSM 7.1 Upgrading to the new Filesystem. Help/Advice needed

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Hi guys, New here

So I've been using my DS1513+ long before the btfs became a thing. Only just realising.
The Filesystem. When I started my nas journey was ext3.
In my research, I learnt that the only way to change to the new Filesystem is by starting afresh. This is what I'm doing now...

How am I doing this?
So I'm only using 4 of the available 5 bays on the nas. I added a new drive into the 5th bay, created a new storage pool and volume (ext Filesystem) and currently backing up files onto that. (ofcourse this isnt big enough) so I'm also transferring my (10years worth) data unto external SSDs until I've transferred it all.
(this has also given me the chance to do a bit of data Cleaning and re-organisation on the NAS.)

Once this is done, what will the process be? Can I just reformat storage pool 1/volume1 into the new Filesystem?
Will doing this affect the drive in bay5 which contains backed up data and is on storage pool2 volume2. Will I need to remove this drive... And if I do, will the nas recognise it if I reinsert it back?

After all the backing up is complete, I'll have data spread across 1 hdd(in the nas) and 3 SSDs that I'll need to transfer back to the newly created Filesystem. Is there any glaring mistake I'm about to make?

Looking forward to suggestions
 
Will I need to remove this drive
Absolutely.

Starting fresh with all the drives inside, those will be wiped, and configured on the new BTRFS system (by default) unless you choose EXT4 (keep in mind that some packages will have a BTRFS as a requirement!).

Your 1513+ as a device will not support the current DSM (7.2.2-x) but it does support 7.1.1-42962. That version will need to be manually downloaded from the Syno download center in order to install it as it will not be automatically updated to it.

Depending on your current version of DSM jumping to that version will not be possible but you can use the same download page to enter your current DSM version and destination version and see all the install jumps needed.

Once the NAS is updated to the version of your choice, then start restoring back. Your 5th drive will be detected (if volume2), and you can start restoring the data. One you have done it, wipe the volume 2 and convert it to BTRFS as well, or simply remove it and remove the drive.
 
Oh... Just checked and you're right. It's 7.1.1 build 6

It's reporting that as the latest dsm
 
Even that UP6 will not be possible to jump to directly as that is only an update to the original 42962 patch. But all in all, 71.1.x is your max supported version.
 
Release Notes (2022-06-08)
For the following models, DSM 7.1 will be the last upgradable version.
  • XS Series: RS3413xs+, RS10613xs+, RS3614xs+, RS3614xs, RS3614RPxs, RC18015xs+, DS3615xs, DS2015xs
  • Plus Series: DS2413+, DS1813+, DS1513+, DS713+, RS2414RP+, RS2414+, RS814RP+, RS814+, DS214+, RS815RP+, RS815+, DS2415+, DS1815+, DS1515+, DS415+, DS215+
 
That’s the major and minor version but the final supported is 7.1.1

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Oh right... That's not soo good to know.

My nas is local network only anyway with only quick connect pointing to the outside world.
The nas is still operating perfectly so no need to start browsing newer models just yet
 
For the following models, DSM 7.1 will be the last upgradable version.
That means the same, you can't upgrade to 7.2, the rest are updates.
 
Then there is really no reason to post the same info is there other then to be part of the thread post?

Let’s not duplicate info ok?
 
Then there is really no reason to post the same info is there other then to be part of the thread post?

Let’s not duplicate info ok?
Oh sorry... Didn't realise I posted the same info... Duplicate thread? Can you link me to it and I'll delete if it hasn't been already
 
That was for me, I think 🙃
 
Thank you. ;)
 
Maybe I do not understand your question, but is upgrade to higher DSM your objective or upgrade from ext3 to ext4 or BTRFS?
Upgrade to BTRFS may not be needed at all. Just if you need the specific extra functionality like snapshots it is worrth doing. As disadvantage, (next to all the work) You will loose about 6% of disk space into overhead.

Ext3 is stil Ok and supported, and may well serve you until you decide to upgrade to a new NAS anyway.
 
Oh
Maybe I do not understand your question, but is upgrade to higher DSM your objective or upgrade from ext3 to ext4 or BTRFS?
Upgrade to BTRFS may not be needed at all. Just if you need the specific extra functionality like snapshots it is worrth doing. As disadvantage, (next to all the work) You will loose about 6% of disk space into overhead.

Ext3 is stil Ok and supported, and may well serve you until you decide to upgrade to a new NAS anyway.
Yes... The only reason for all this is indeed to "upgrade" to btrfs. As it's Synology's own format, I'm thinking it will be more stable and probably treat the drives better compared to ext3/4

Having snapshots could be something I could look into in the future so it'll be good to have that functionality. I think I also saw a new type of disk management/monitoring option only available with btrfs.

Anyway, I have only about 1tb worth of backups left so might as well just see it through now.

Shame about the extra 6% loss of usable space. Good to know.

Cheers
 
Absolutely.

Starting fresh with all the drives inside, those will be wiped, and configured on the new BTRFS system (by default) unless you choose EXT4 (keep in mind that some packages will have a BTRFS as a requirement!).

Your 1513+ as a device will not support the current DSM (7.2.2-x) but it does support 7.1.1-42962. That version will need to be manually downloaded from the Syno download center in order to install it as it will not be automatically updated to it.

Depending on your current version of DSM jumping to that version will not be possible but you can use the same download page to enter your current DSM version and destination version and see all the install jumps needed.

Once the NAS is updated to the version of your choice, then start restoring back. Your 5th drive will be detected (if volume2), and you can start restoring the data. One you have done it, wipe the volume 2 and convert it to BTRFS as well, or simply remove it and remove the drive.
Hi Rusty,

So I'm in a bit of a bind here. Luckily, nothing is lost here. So back up completed and I checked that all was good on the usb drives and the extra drive in bay5 - sp2/vol2

I took it out as you said, this put the nas in a critical state. But this was somewhat expected since the drive in sp2/vol2 is missing. I decided to plug it back in... and dsm doesn't recognise it as it should. It wants me to format it to create another volume... Even though it recognises it was a dsm file structure.

Ofcourse, I declined. I then took it back out, placed it on a dock and connected via USB... Again dsm didn't recognise it and couldn't read it. But the dsm partitions were visible under external devices. The files just couldn't be read.

Not sure what the next course of action now is... The usb backups are fine thankfully
 
I took it out as you said, this put the nas in a critical state.
So you plugged it back in without the actual update and clean slate correct? What file format have you created on that second pool/volume?

While 1513 is a hot swap model have you tried to reboot the NAS after you have returned the drive?

If on the other hand you have already updated the NAS and did a fresh install and then returned the 5th drive please let us know so we all know the current status of this migration.
 
Yes... Being hot swappable is one of the features.

So I was already on the newest dsm. The one you mentioned... So there was nothing to update.

I haven't deleted sp1/volume 1 yet so all my data is still there. The status now is the backup I made on sp2/vol2 is no longer readable. The volume was created using ext4 file system.

I just plugged it in as a final "backup check" before I cleared all my data from sp1/vol1
 
go to the shell and see if you can manually mount the drive.
If i am not mistaken you first have to sync the DSM partitions and then you can mount the volume in the GUI.

i did it the same way you did it (not from ext to btrfs) but from unencrypted to encrypted volumes.
Which backup software have you used? hyperbackup?
 
I just manually copied files across using file station


"Go to shell... " is this within DSM? Or it's an ssh thing. I'll have a look

Cheers
 

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