What is “device fingerprinting”?

[WST16]

Some sites use “device fingerprinting” to try to uniquely identify you and track you. YouTube does this I think. How nasty.

What Is Device Fingerprinting And How Does It Work?

 

[iStone]

Thanks for sharing ... Really hate this!

It is even worst that such innovative ideas were coming from human people himself (yes, those bought-over talents highly paid in silicon valley). One group people is doing evil (heard the slogan from Google?) and the other is doing the same back, which formulates another black-hole into human society (Yes human is fighting against and "killing" themselves). Last weekend I was talking to a famous goverment IT scientist, there's doubt even "open source" methodology, which means it should have someone to overlook on the code, but in the reality nobody (can). Just an example, almsot every website is uing google's library e.g. Node.js, which tracks all the way back to Google's server Iinking to the latest version...

Today while using Mac, I got a notification prompt from macOS asking me to enter my Gmail password ! But my Mail app is not open yet! I searched and found this! So since 2017 still not be solved( means no one cares)!

 

[WST16]

As you said, so many data breaches and scandals. One would expect the share price of a company like FB for example to take a hit when such a thing happens, but no, not much changes! Not sure, is it because we're creatures of habit and we continue doing what we got used to do or did we get to a point where we've become inured to all of it!

Scary!

 

[jeyare]

in these days is everything tracked. And it is a base level only. It will be more and more tracking sources.
From one reason is good to know e.g. whole car history (purchase day, maintenance, parts repaired, accidents, ...).
From other side - human privacy, it isn't good message for a responsible persons.
But try to count with me:

• virtual exhibitionist - how people like to share they whole life details by socnetw. with others (and tracking system as well). But never put the photos on the house entry door.
• naivety - how people like to save their data (documents, ...) to "trusted" virtual spaces. But never put the same data to neighbor flat.

Pareto rule is still valid. 80% of these people are carefree and main problem is, that they have concession to elect someone to local or state government. It is all about carefree mechanism of spend their life. For the carefree majority it is enough, they need just someone, who will solve their problems by cheap promises.
And this essay you can read from someone, who has experienced nasty part of human era - socialism in Central Europe. Sometime I have a sense, that people need experience to fall into hell. But it hurts.
But as in DK old Alfred told to young Bruce: "Why do we fall sir? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up."

 

[jeyare]

but I have also better part of the device fingerprint usage.
Last week I spent with analyzes of my off-road behavior.
The reason has been like this:
Car stopped on traffic lights and 5sec. refused all my acceleration pedal try to continue in my way. There was normal feedback from pedal to revs, but car was like turtle. Just 5km/h. Five seconds. Then a miracle and everything was back to normal. Few times during the week.
My technician from car repair shop spent 2 days with analyze what is happened. Because no Faul codes observed from car ECU.
I like tech stuff, then I use OBD2 with Torque Pro App in my Android Car radio.Also with realtime logging feature for each ECU sensors.
What I found, that there is an auto-immune protection of Automatic transmission (another control unit) for brake pedal usage during an acceleration (acc. pedal usage). Then A/T goes to “safe mode” till you release the brake pedal.
This was the real reason, and reason, why the car ECU Fault code list was empty.
Brake pedal light switch has two functions- brake light + brake ledal release signal to A/T ECU.
Then I found, that there is MUT protocol (for ECU comm), which is able detect all statuses. But only if you have MUT diagnostic tool/laptop connected to your car. Now I work for the car sensors fingerprint tracking in realtime to logs, then syncing to Drive and analyze in PowerBi to find better answer, than Fault codes only. It can save a time for future.
Do you have an experiences with the MUT?

 

[iStone]

@jeyare : Although I heard the words of ECU, OBD2 etc., maybe that's a bit off-topic.

Sure you can do a lot with the diagnosis software from AUDI or BMW/MB, but the car infotainment system is till at its very early and OEM-solely controlled stage, also very hardware-specific firmware and coding system, e.g. maybe you have heard "component control"? i.e. the electronic components in the car are totally registered at OEM's central database, you cannot buy any aftermarket component and install it yourself (or by a cheaper non-authorized garage/dealer). One side is for safety, but the other side is the monopoly high cost control.

Now iPhone/Mac is doing the same, you must buy the parts from Apple and replaced by its authorized shops.

But back to the topic, I am afraid such "fingerprint" tracking system is mainly being misused for purely money-earning strategy(like the cookie), on the other side, government or public media may misuse it to their own purposes, i.e. people will not be able get the true story and even lost the resources for them to make unbiased/independent judgement or decision.

 

[fbartels]

Today while using Mac, I got a notification prompt from macOS asking me to enter my Gmail password ! But my Mail app is not open yet! I searched and found this! So since 2017 still not be solved( means no one cares)!

But that has 0% to do with Open Source. This is Apple (yes, using some oss parts) and their OS and email app. Also your problem may not really be related to the cause of password prompts I your linked article.

 

[jeyare]

My MTU post has been moved to Lounge

Car MUT diagnostic mapping

Order is order, then I will move my topic to Lounge. @SynoMan could you pls remove my original post? Thx Here is the content: but I have also better part of the device fingerprint usage. Last week I spent with analyzes of my off-road behavior. The reason has been like this: Car stopped on...

www.synoforum.com

 

[iStone]

FYI :
How to Fake your Location in Google Chrome

 

[WST16]

Excellent. Only one problem (for me). Never use Chrome. I don't trust them. Even if I do this, it must be going through my NAS library in the background

It must be a trick. Don't fall for it. Close that thing and wear your tin foil hat.

 

[Rusty]

Close that thing and wear your tin foil hat

Doing it right NOW!

 

[Telos]

FWIW, I've been using Edge Chromium for about a month, completely walking away from Chrome. Google can't find me... hahahahaha

 

[jeyare]

2y ago I was attending in EU Insurance event, where all the insurance companies promoted IoT, car monitoring (realtime accident evaluation) and so on. Simple - people behaviour monitoring.
Then guy from Generali totally change all the insurer behaviour. Shortened version.
They asked them:
What is more important point for the car insurance selling?
... a road risk existence
We cover the rising risk for clients, then we can sell more insurance products. Because people worried about the risks.
Second question:
What will happen when we will use car black box for the control of the car/drivers behaviour?
.... folks answering: we save money from insurr. events, because people will change their behaviour and will use the car better (they will know, that they are monitored by us).
Then the guy placed last idea:
So then we will provide for the market significant decreasing of the road risks - then we will lose our revenues from car insurance selling, because the master enabler (road risk) of the selling will be out. Then we will lose our KPIs. We don’t need the boxes.
—- end
Just to be sure:
Till now, how many insurance companies use car black boxes as part of insurance motivation?

 

[WST16]

Just to be sure:
Till now, how many insurance companies use car black boxes as part of insurance motivation?

 

[fredbert]

Till now, how many insurance companies use car black boxes as part of insurance motivation?

Quite a few do it for new/young drivers, but then the cost of insurance even with a blackbox tracker is still much more than it was for me when I got my first car.

Back then you got the minimum policy that covered your expense if you caused the accident (called 3rd party, fire, and theft), doing this for a few years to bring down your risk and then get a policy that covered your own car too (called fully comprehensive). Now I'm advised (by the CFO when our kids started driving) the policies are comprehensive and can limit the age or the car to newer ones, huh! I find it best to ignore this cos the costs scare me.

Also a first car was generally a bit of a dump that cost very little.

 

[SynoMan]

.... folks answering: we save money from insurr. events, because people will change their behaviour and will use the car better (they will know, that they are monitored by us).

 

[WST16]

Alkohol and Klebstoff. The windshield wiper

 

[jeyare]

Sehr gut!

 

[iStone]

Quite a few do it for new/young drivers, but then the cost of insurance even with a blackbox tracker is still much more than it was for me when I got my first car.

what is "a blackbox tracker", monitoring driver's behavior? what's that, never heard about it...

BTW: FF and G.C. are both using the gps api,=> Howto spoof your location at FF & GC

check if it works at Geolocation API - Reverse Geocoding - HTML5 Geolocation API Demo - BrowserLeaks.com

 

[fredbert]

what is "a blackbox tracker", monitoring driver's behavior? what's that, never heard about it...

It's tracker that logs stuff like speed (presumably vs GPS location and road limit), braking behaviour, times used, other stuff probably. Mostly young drivers accept to have this so that they can get a lower insurance premium. There's feedback about driving style and, I think, it can be used to adjust premiums during the contract. It's not mandatory.

I'm guessing many parents don't have it in their cars, so more for young drivers' own cars.